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progea
2008-04-26 13:47:52 UTC
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MySpace bulletin. As can be seen, no link was included. A search on
Rocky Mountain News (Denver?) is needed.

From: Dave Kilminster

Date: Apr 26, 2008 8:23 AM

Subject: New Roger Waters Interview Discusses DSOTM Tour!

Body: With the beginning of the 2008 Dark Side of the Moon Tour
approaching this weekend, Roger Waters is interviewed by a Colorado
reporter about the tour, his music and perspective... Check it out
here!

Another look at 'Dark Side'
By Mark Brown, Rocky Mountain News
Friday, April 25, 2008

Roger Waters says timeless songs are truthful songs.

It's a happy accident that Pink Floyd co-founder Roger Waters is
playing the Pepsi Center. Waters had no touring plan for the U.S. but
agreed to a May benefit in Argentina. Playing the Coachella Festival
in California seemed like a good warm-up, and that meant time for a
few shows in Colorado and Texas. Then the Argentina benefit was
canceled. So Waters finds himself on a mini-tour he never intended.
The upside, he told Rocky pop music writer Mark Brown with a laugh
during a rare interview, is that he'll get to sing the anti-George W.
Bush song Leaving Beirut in his home state.

You were booed early on for Leaving Beirut, but a lot of America has
come around to your way of thinking.

Your thoughts?

I remember the first gig we did on the first bit of the tour (in 2006)
was in Camden, N.J. There were lots of military bases around there. I
was getting the finger, and there was a certain measure of unrest. In
the intervening years that unrest has become a quieter and quieter
voice. People have embraced the idea that just because you're an Arab
or a Muslim doesn't mean you're one of the "evildoers." We're all
people, and we need to understand one another better.

Does revisiting Dark Side of the Moon in its entirety (in concert)
bring any new meaning?

It's how strange that the politics of the thing seem to be up to date
now. What impresses me most about it is the attachment of an
increasingly young audience to the ideas in it and songs like Us and
Them, which develop the ideas that you and I have been speaking about
here. None of this stuff has gone away, ever.

Some music from your classic era sounds timeless, like Dark Side or
John Fogerty's anti-war songs. But some music from that era sounds
dated and silly. You managed to avoid that with Dark Side and The
Wall.

Why is that?

It's because they're truthful and they spring from a passionate
attachment to political and philosophical ideals that are based in the
experience of others. If you were to name something that you now
consider silly . . . not that I want to knock other artists, but you'd
probably find the subject matter is fey in some way.

I'm thinking music like Emerson, Lake & Palmer.

Well, that wasn't about anything . . . it was a construct in order to
sell records. It didn't have its roots in somebody's passionate belief
in human life. It had its roots in wanting to be successful in pop
music in the 1970s.

Is it difficult to stage Dark Side and find musicians who can handle
the parts?

No. One has to always take one's hat off to Dave (Gilmour) and Rick
(Wright), who created the original parts. But I treat it as a
classical piece. There are lots of musicians around who are capable of
learning the parts as if it was a piece of classical music. The guitar
player who plays most of the Gilmour stuff, Dave Kilminster, does it
beautifully. He brings his own something to it, but basically they're
the notes in Dave's solos. I make no bones about staying very close to
the original parts because I think they're beautiful.

I read you're recording an album called Heartland.

Any truth to that?

That might well be. It might be called Heartland, or it might be
called something else. I have a ton of songs I've written. I keep
meaning to get around to going in the studio.

Is it more enjoyable to record with today's technology?

I was reminding myself that back in those days when we were doing a
mix of something, all of us would sit down at the mixing board. We'd
start the 24-track tape. Everybody would have three or four faders
that were their responsibility and pan pots and equalizers and effects
and things. You'd run it from the top to the bottom, and it would be a
performance. That would be mix one. Then you'd go, "I didn't get this
move quite right," and you'd do it again. You'd listen to those mixes
and make a value judgment about which one moved you more. Now, of
course, it's all digital and it remembers everything you do and you
can change minutiae without having to do the whole thing again. It has
removed the idea of performance from the mixing of the song.

Some musicians get paralyzed by too many choices.

I always think it's a bit of a handicap, in terms of writing, if
you're a virtuoso guitar player or keyboard player or anything else,
really. There's a temptation to sort of noodle. However brilliant it
may be, it's not writing. I've always thought the fact that I can't
play instruments really well has been something of an advantage.

It means I have to think about things - what is the effect I'm trying
to create here?

Because you're such a crappy musician.

Exactly! (laughs) It's funny you should say that. Just because you're
not a virtuoso guitar player doesn't mean that you're not a good
musician. It's a sort of fallacy that has been picked upon by my
enemies from time to time. Music is actually about communicating
feelings to human beings. If you do that within the genre, it doesn't
matter if you can't play Chopin preludes on the piano. You're still a
musician.

Pink Floyd's one-off reunion at Live 8 has been analyzed to death.

But are you yourself a fan of reunions?

I don't think you can generalize about it. It's hard for bands; often
half of them are dead. I'm not really keen on the reunion when there's
only one bloke left standing. However, if everybody's alive and
enthusiastic about doing it, I think they're great. The Live 8 thing
was quite extraordinary. Even at our advanced years, we all still
seemed to be able to play a bit and sing. I thought those songs we did
sounded great. It was very moving for me personally to hear those four
musical voices joined together again onstage. And equally very moving
to experience the enormous waves of love that were coming off the
field at us. It was just fantastic. I loved it.

Will you consider releasing Floyd music from the vaults, like the 1973
BBC broadcast?

It's all out there on bootlegs. I'm not that interested in it.
luvhockey
2008-04-26 14:56:01 UTC
Permalink
On Apr 26, 9:47 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> MySpace bulletin. As can be seen, no link was included. A search on
> Rocky Mountain News (Denver?) is needed.
>
> From:    Dave Kilminster
>
> Date:  Apr 26, 2008 8:23 AM
>
> Subject:  New Roger Waters Interview Discusses DSOTM Tour!
>
> Body:  With the beginning of the 2008 Dark Side of the Moon Tour
> approaching this weekend, Roger Waters is interviewed by a Colorado
> reporter about the tour, his music and perspective... Check it out
> here!
>
> Another look at 'Dark Side'
> By Mark Brown, Rocky Mountain News
> Friday, April 25, 2008
>
> Roger Waters says timeless songs are truthful songs.
>
> It's a happy accident that Pink Floyd co-founder Roger Waters is
> playing the Pepsi Center. Waters had no touring plan for the U.S. but
> agreed to a May benefit in Argentina. Playing the Coachella Festival
> in California seemed like a good warm-up, and that meant time for a
> few shows in Colorado and Texas. Then the Argentina benefit was
> canceled. So Waters finds himself on a mini-tour he never intended.
> The upside, he told Rocky pop music writer Mark Brown with a laugh
> during a rare interview, is that he'll get to sing the anti-George W.
> Bush song Leaving Beirut in his home state.
>
> You were booed early on for Leaving Beirut, but a lot of America has
> come around to your way of thinking.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> I remember the first gig we did on the first bit of the tour (in 2006)
> was in Camden, N.J. There were lots of military bases around there. I
> was getting the finger, and there was a certain measure of unrest. In
> the intervening years that unrest has become a quieter and quieter
> voice. People have embraced the idea that just because you're an Arab
> or a Muslim doesn't mean you're one of the "evildoers." We're all
> people, and we need to understand one another better.
>
> Does revisiting Dark Side of the Moon in its entirety (in concert)
> bring any new meaning?
>
> It's how strange that the politics of the thing seem to be up to date
> now. What impresses me most about it is the attachment of an
> increasingly young audience to the ideas in it and songs like Us and
> Them, which develop the ideas that you and I have been speaking about
> here. None of this stuff has gone away, ever.
>
> Some music from your classic era sounds timeless, like Dark Side or
> John Fogerty's anti-war songs. But some music from that era sounds
> dated and silly. You managed to avoid that with Dark Side and The
> Wall.
>
> Why is that?
>
> It's because they're truthful and they spring from a passionate
> attachment to political and philosophical ideals that are based in the
> experience of others. If you were to name something that you now
> consider silly . . . not that I want to knock other artists, but you'd
> probably find the subject matter is fey in some way.
>
> I'm thinking music like Emerson, Lake & Palmer.
>
> Well, that wasn't about anything . . . it was a construct in order to
> sell records. It didn't have its roots in somebody's passionate belief
> in human life. It had its roots in wanting to be successful in pop
> music in the 1970s.
>
> Is it difficult to stage Dark Side and find musicians who can handle
> the parts?
>
> No. One has to always take one's hat off to Dave (Gilmour) and Rick
> (Wright), who created the original parts. But I treat it as a
> classical piece. There are lots of musicians around who are capable of
> learning the parts as if it was a piece of classical music. The guitar
> player who plays most of the Gilmour stuff, Dave Kilminster, does it
> beautifully. He brings his own something to it, but basically they're
> the notes in Dave's solos. I make no bones about staying very close to
> the original parts because I think they're beautiful.
>
> I read you're recording an album called Heartland.
>
> Any truth to that?
>
> That might well be. It might be called Heartland, or it might be
> called something else. I have a ton of songs I've written. I keep
> meaning to get around to going in the studio.
>
> Is it more enjoyable to record with today's technology?
>
> I was reminding myself that back in those days when we were doing a
> mix of something, all of us would sit down at the mixing board. We'd
> start the 24-track tape. Everybody would have three or four faders
> that were their responsibility and pan pots and equalizers and effects
> and things. You'd run it from the top to the bottom, and it would be a
> performance. That would be mix one. Then you'd go, "I didn't get this
> move quite right," and you'd do it again. You'd listen to those mixes
> and make a value judgment about which one moved you more. Now, of
> course, it's all digital and it remembers everything you do and you
> can change minutiae without having to do the whole thing again. It has
> removed the idea of performance from the mixing of the song.
>
> Some musicians get paralyzed by too many choices.
>
> I always think it's a bit of a handicap, in terms of writing, if
> you're a virtuoso guitar player or keyboard player or anything else,
> really. There's a temptation to sort of noodle. However brilliant it
> may be, it's not writing. I've always thought the fact that I can't
> play instruments really well has been something of an advantage.
>
> It means I have to think about things - what is the effect I'm trying
> to create here?
>
> Because you're such a crappy musician.
>
> Exactly! (laughs) It's funny you should say that. Just because you're
> not a virtuoso guitar player doesn't mean that you're not a good
> musician. It's a sort of fallacy that has been picked upon by my
> enemies from time to time. Music is actually about communicating
> feelings to human beings. If you do that within the genre, it doesn't
> matter if you can't play Chopin preludes on the piano. You're still a
> musician.
>
> Pink Floyd's one-off reunion at Live 8 has been analyzed to death.
>
> But are you yourself a fan of reunions?
>
> I don't think you can generalize about it. It's hard for bands; often
> half of them are dead. I'm not really keen on the reunion when there's
> only one bloke left standing. However, if everybody's alive and
> enthusiastic about doing it, I think they're great. The Live 8 thing
> was quite extraordinary. Even at our advanced years, we all still
> seemed to be able to play a bit and sing. I thought those songs we did
> sounded great. It was very moving for me personally to hear those four
> musical voices joined together again onstage. And equally very moving
> to experience the enormous waves of love that were coming off the
> field at us. It was just fantastic. I loved it.
>
> Will you consider releasing Floyd music from the vaults, like the 1973
> BBC broadcast?
>
> It's all out there on bootlegs. I'm not that interested in it.

What is this? Did OUR Mark Brown interview Roger?
progea
2008-04-27 20:18:53 UTC
Permalink
On Apr 26, 10:56 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 26, 9:47 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > MySpace bulletin. As can be seen, no link was included. A search on
> > Rocky Mountain News (Denver?) is needed.
>
> > From:    Dave Kilminster
>
> > Date:  Apr 26, 2008 8:23 AM
>
> > Subject:  New Roger Waters Interview Discusses DSOTM Tour!
>
> > Body:  With the beginning of the 2008 Dark Side of the Moon Tour
> > approaching this weekend, Roger Waters is interviewed by a Colorado
> > reporter about the tour, his music and perspective... Check it out
> > here!
>
> > Another look at 'Dark Side'
> > By Mark Brown, Rocky Mountain News
> > Friday, April 25, 2008
>
> > Roger Waters says timeless songs are truthful songs.
>
> > It's a happy accident that Pink Floyd co-founder Roger Waters is
> > playing the Pepsi Center. Waters had no touring plan for the U.S. but
> > agreed to a May benefit in Argentina. Playing the Coachella Festival
> > in California seemed like a good warm-up, and that meant time for a
> > few shows in Colorado and Texas. Then the Argentina benefit was
> > canceled. So Waters finds himself on a mini-tour he never intended.
> > The upside, he told Rocky pop music writer Mark Brown with a laugh
> > during a rare interview, is that he'll get to sing the anti-George W.
> > Bush song Leaving Beirut in his home state.
>
> > You were booed early on for Leaving Beirut, but a lot of America has
> > come around to your way of thinking.
>
> > Your thoughts?
>
> > I remember the first gig we did on the first bit of the tour (in 2006)
> > was in Camden, N.J. There were lots of military bases around there. I
> > was getting the finger, and there was a certain measure of unrest. In
> > the intervening years that unrest has become a quieter and quieter
> > voice. People have embraced the idea that just because you're an Arab
> > or a Muslim doesn't mean you're one of the "evildoers." We're all
> > people, and we need to understand one another better.
>
> > Does revisiting Dark Side of the Moon in its entirety (in concert)
> > bring any new meaning?
>
> > It's how strange that the politics of the thing seem to be up to date
> > now. What impresses me most about it is the attachment of an
> > increasingly young audience to the ideas in it and songs like Us and
> > Them, which develop the ideas that you and I have been speaking about
> > here. None of this stuff has gone away, ever.
>
> > Some music from your classic era sounds timeless, like Dark Side or
> > John Fogerty's anti-war songs. But some music from that era sounds
> > dated and silly. You managed to avoid that with Dark Side and The
> > Wall.
>
> > Why is that?
>
> > It's because they're truthful and they spring from a passionate
> > attachment to political and philosophical ideals that are based in the
> > experience of others. If you were to name something that you now
> > consider silly . . . not that I want to knock other artists, but you'd
> > probably find the subject matter is fey in some way.
>
> > I'm thinking music like Emerson, Lake & Palmer.
>
> > Well, that wasn't about anything . . . it was a construct in order to
> > sell records. It didn't have its roots in somebody's passionate belief
> > in human life. It had its roots in wanting to be successful in pop
> > music in the 1970s.
>
> > Is it difficult to stage Dark Side and find musicians who can handle
> > the parts?
>
> > No. One has to always take one's hat off to Dave (Gilmour) and Rick
> > (Wright), who created the original parts. But I treat it as a
> > classical piece. There are lots of musicians around who are capable of
> > learning the parts as if it was a piece of classical music. The guitar
> > player who plays most of the Gilmour stuff, Dave Kilminster, does it
> > beautifully. He brings his own something to it, but basically they're
> > the notes in Dave's solos. I make no bones about staying very close to
> > the original parts because I think they're beautiful.
>
> > I read you're recording an album called Heartland.
>
> > Any truth to that?
>
> > That might well be. It might be called Heartland, or it might be
> > called something else. I have a ton of songs I've written. I keep
> > meaning to get around to going in the studio.
>
> > Is it more enjoyable to record with today's technology?
>
> > I was reminding myself that back in those days when we were doing a
> > mix of something, all of us would sit down at the mixing board. We'd
> > start the 24-track tape. Everybody would have three or four faders
> > that were their responsibility and pan pots and equalizers and effects
> > and things. You'd run it from the top to the bottom, and it would be a
> > performance. That would be mix one. Then you'd go, "I didn't get this
> > move quite right," and you'd do it again. You'd listen to those mixes
> > and make a value judgment about which one moved you more. Now, of
> > course, it's all digital and it remembers everything you do and you
> > can change minutiae without having to do the whole thing again. It has
> > removed the idea of performance from the mixing of the song.
>
> > Some musicians get paralyzed by too many choices.
>
> > I always think it's a bit of a handicap, in terms of writing, if
> > you're a virtuoso guitar player or keyboard player or anything else,
> > really. There's a temptation to sort of noodle. However brilliant it
> > may be, it's not writing. I've always thought the fact that I can't
> > play instruments really well has been something of an advantage.
>
> > It means I have to think about things - what is the effect I'm trying
> > to create here?
>
> > Because you're such a crappy musician.
>
> > Exactly! (laughs) It's funny you should say that. Just because you're
> > not a virtuoso guitar player doesn't mean that you're not a good
> > musician. It's a sort of fallacy that has been picked upon by my
> > enemies from time to time. Music is actually about communicating
> > feelings to human beings. If you do that within the genre, it doesn't
> > matter if you can't play Chopin preludes on the piano. You're still a
> > musician.
>
> > Pink Floyd's one-off reunion at Live 8 has been analyzed to death.
>
> > But are you yourself a fan of reunions?
>
> > I don't think you can generalize about it. It's hard for bands; often
> > half of them are dead. I'm not really keen on the reunion when there's
> > only one bloke left standing. However, if everybody's alive and
> > enthusiastic about doing it, I think they're great. The Live 8 thing
> > was quite extraordinary. Even at our advanced years, we all still
> > seemed to be able to play a bit and sing. I thought those songs we did
> > sounded great. It was very moving for me personally to hear those four
> > musical voices joined together again onstage. And equally very moving
> > to experience the enormous waves of love that were coming off the
> > field at us. It was just fantastic. I loved it.
>
> > Will you consider releasing Floyd music from the vaults, like the 1973
> > BBC broadcast?
>
> > It's all out there on bootlegs. I'm not that interested in it.
>
> What is this?  

Like I already said: a MySpace bulletin, from Dave Kilminster's site.
You know what a MySpace bulletin is, right? You know who Dave
Kilminister is, right?

Did OUR Mark Brown interview Roger?

OUR? You in Denver or something?
luvhockey
2008-04-26 14:58:23 UTC
Permalink
On Apr 26, 9:47 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> MySpace bulletin. As can be seen, no link was included. A search on
> Rocky Mountain News (Denver?) is needed.
>
> From:    Dave Kilminster
>
> Date:  Apr 26, 2008 8:23 AM
>
> Subject:  New Roger Waters Interview Discusses DSOTM Tour!
>
> Body:  With the beginning of the 2008 Dark Side of the Moon Tour
> approaching this weekend, Roger Waters is interviewed by a Colorado
> reporter about the tour, his music and perspective... Check it out
> here!
>
> Another look at 'Dark Side'
> By Mark Brown, Rocky Mountain News
> Friday, April 25, 2008
>
> Roger Waters says timeless songs are truthful songs.
>
> It's a happy accident that Pink Floyd co-founder Roger Waters is
> playing the Pepsi Center. Waters had no touring plan for the U.S. but
> agreed to a May benefit in Argentina. Playing the Coachella Festival
> in California seemed like a good warm-up, and that meant time for a
> few shows in Colorado and Texas. Then the Argentina benefit was
> canceled. So Waters finds himself on a mini-tour he never intended.
> The upside, he told Rocky pop music writer Mark Brown with a laugh
> during a rare interview, is that he'll get to sing the anti-George W.
> Bush song Leaving Beirut in his home state.
>
> You were booed early on for Leaving Beirut, but a lot of America has
> come around to your way of thinking.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> I remember the first gig we did on the first bit of the tour (in 2006)
> was in Camden, N.J. There were lots of military bases around there. I
> was getting the finger, and there was a certain measure of unrest. In
> the intervening years that unrest has become a quieter and quieter
> voice. People have embraced the idea that just because you're an Arab
> or a Muslim doesn't mean you're one of the "evildoers." We're all
> people, and we need to understand one another better.
>
> Does revisiting Dark Side of the Moon in its entirety (in concert)
> bring any new meaning?
>
> It's how strange that the politics of the thing seem to be up to date
> now. What impresses me most about it is the attachment of an
> increasingly young audience to the ideas in it and songs like Us and
> Them, which develop the ideas that you and I have been speaking about
> here. None of this stuff has gone away, ever.
>
> Some music from your classic era sounds timeless, like Dark Side or
> John Fogerty's anti-war songs. But some music from that era sounds
> dated and silly. You managed to avoid that with Dark Side and The
> Wall.
>
> Why is that?
>
> It's because they're truthful and they spring from a passionate
> attachment to political and philosophical ideals that are based in the
> experience of others. If you were to name something that you now
> consider silly . . . not that I want to knock other artists, but you'd
> probably find the subject matter is fey in some way.
>
> I'm thinking music like Emerson, Lake & Palmer.
>
> Well, that wasn't about anything . . . it was a construct in order to
> sell records. It didn't have its roots in somebody's passionate belief
> in human life. It had its roots in wanting to be successful in pop
> music in the 1970s.
>
> Is it difficult to stage Dark Side and find musicians who can handle
> the parts?
>
> No. One has to always take one's hat off to Dave (Gilmour) and Rick
> (Wright), who created the original parts. But I treat it as a
> classical piece. There are lots of musicians around who are capable of
> learning the parts as if it was a piece of classical music. The guitar
> player who plays most of the Gilmour stuff, Dave Kilminster, does it
> beautifully. He brings his own something to it, but basically they're
> the notes in Dave's solos. I make no bones about staying very close to
> the original parts because I think they're beautiful.
>
> I read you're recording an album called Heartland.
>
> Any truth to that?
>
> That might well be. It might be called Heartland, or it might be
> called something else. I have a ton of songs I've written. I keep
> meaning to get around to going in the studio.
>
> Is it more enjoyable to record with today's technology?
>
> I was reminding myself that back in those days when we were doing a
> mix of something, all of us would sit down at the mixing board. We'd
> start the 24-track tape. Everybody would have three or four faders
> that were their responsibility and pan pots and equalizers and effects
> and things. You'd run it from the top to the bottom, and it would be a
> performance. That would be mix one. Then you'd go, "I didn't get this
> move quite right," and you'd do it again. You'd listen to those mixes
> and make a value judgment about which one moved you more. Now, of
> course, it's all digital and it remembers everything you do and you
> can change minutiae without having to do the whole thing again. It has
> removed the idea of performance from the mixing of the song.
>
> Some musicians get paralyzed by too many choices.
>
> I always think it's a bit of a handicap, in terms of writing, if
> you're a virtuoso guitar player or keyboard player or anything else,
> really. There's a temptation to sort of noodle. However brilliant it
> may be, it's not writing. I've always thought the fact that I can't
> play instruments really well has been something of an advantage.
>
> It means I have to think about things - what is the effect I'm trying
> to create here?
>
> Because you're such a crappy musician.
>
> Exactly! (laughs) It's funny you should say that. Just because you're
> not a virtuoso guitar player doesn't mean that you're not a good
> musician. It's a sort of fallacy that has been picked upon by my
> enemies from time to time. Music is actually about communicating
> feelings to human beings. If you do that within the genre, it doesn't
> matter if you can't play Chopin preludes on the piano. You're still a
> musician.
>
> Pink Floyd's one-off reunion at Live 8 has been analyzed to death.
>
> But are you yourself a fan of reunions?
>
> I don't think you can generalize about it. It's hard for bands; often
> half of them are dead. I'm not really keen on the reunion when there's
> only one bloke left standing. However, if everybody's alive and
> enthusiastic about doing it, I think they're great. The Live 8 thing
> was quite extraordinary. Even at our advanced years, we all still
> seemed to be able to play a bit and sing. I thought those songs we did
> sounded great. It was very moving for me personally to hear those four
> musical voices joined together again onstage. And equally very moving
> to experience the enormous waves of love that were coming off the
> field at us. It was just fantastic. I loved it.
>
> Will you consider releasing Floyd music from the vaults, like the 1973
> BBC broadcast?
>
> It's all out there on bootlegs. I'm not that interested in it.

Whose Myspace?? Post some links to the space and to the interview
Vicky is Sticky
2008-04-26 17:01:20 UTC
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"luvhockey" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 26, 9:47 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Whose Myspace?? Post some links to the space and to the interview

Why not use you're brain and type a little of the interview into
google......

lazy fucker!
luvhockey
2008-04-26 17:23:09 UTC
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On Apr 26, 1:01 pm, "Vicky is Sticky" <***@malaga.com> wrote:
> "luvhockey" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8a6ad8c5-b5b7-4849-829f-***@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 26, 9:47 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Whose Myspace?? Post some links to the space and to the interview
>
> Why not use you're brain and type a little of the interview into
> google......
>
> lazy fucker!

yeah I'm lazy,I'm not reading the whole thing, just to find out at the
end that it was only that fart storytelling guy all along.
e***@chinagreenelvis.com
2008-04-26 19:56:45 UTC
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The interview:
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/apr/25/another-look-at-dark-side/

Mark Brown:
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/staff/mark-brown/

Is this the AMP-F Mark Brown?
luvhockey
2008-04-26 20:01:52 UTC
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On Apr 26, 3:56 pm, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
> The interview:http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/apr/25/another-look-at-dar...
>
> Mark Brown:http://www.rockymountainnews.com/staff/mark-brown/
>
> Is this the AMP-F Mark Brown?

That's what I wanna know! But I think if it was, he'd be over here
talking about it.
Hey would the real ampf Mark Brown please stand up.
e***@chinagreenelvis.com
2008-04-27 03:01:12 UTC
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> Hey would the real ampf Mark Brown please stand up.

In any event, I laughed so hard I almost shat myself when I read that
he mentioned Emerson Lake and Palmer...
luvhockey
2008-04-27 14:05:11 UTC
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On Apr 26, 11:01 pm, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
> > Hey would the real ampf Mark Brown please stand up.
>
> In any event, I laughed so hard I almost shat myself when I read that
> he mentioned Emerson Lake and Palmer...

What the hell was that all about? Somebody knows more than I though.
Of all the bands in all world they had to mention them.
"She may know more than you think" Genesis
progea
2008-04-27 20:28:14 UTC
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On Apr 27, 10:05 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 26, 11:01 pm, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
>
> > > Hey would the real ampf Mark Brown please stand up.
>
> > In any event, I laughed so hard I almost shat myself when I read that
> > he mentioned Emerson Lake and Palmer...
>
> What the hell was that all about?  Somebody knows more than I though.

LOL Jesus, one of Mark Brown's questions was stated in sentence format
after Waters's previous response. And Marlk Brown said there "I'm
thinking of music like Emerson, Lake and Palmer". You didn't even
bother reading it and I' wasted my time.
e***@chinagreenelvis.com
2008-04-27 22:28:46 UTC
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> > What the hell was that all about? Somebody knows more than I though.
>
> LOL Jesus, one of Mark Brown's questions was stated in sentence format
> after Waters's previous response. And Marlk Brown said there "I'm
> thinking of music like Emerson, Lake and Palmer". You didn't even
> bother reading it and I' wasted my time.

No, she read it, she just means "what was that all about" as in "why
did he pick that particular band name..." You kind of have to be in
the know to understand why his mentioning ELP would be interesting to
us and especially her, but you are not in the know. Not an insult or
anything, you just don't know the whole story... yet...

There is a guy named Mark Brown who has been posting to alt.music.pink-
floyd for a long, long time. If this article was written by him, I
totally understand why he picked that name and it was a real inside
joke. If it's not him, there are two very big instances of coincidence/
synchronicity on our hands.
luvhockey
2008-04-27 23:16:58 UTC
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On Apr 27, 6:28 pm, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
> > > What the hell was that all about?  Somebody knows more than I though.
>
> > LOL Jesus, one of Mark Brown's questions was stated in sentence format
> > after Waters's previous response. And Marlk Brown said there "I'm
> > thinking of music like Emerson, Lake and Palmer". You didn't even
> > bother reading it and I' wasted my time.
>
> No, she read it, she just means "what was that all about" as in "why
> did he pick that particular band name..." You kind of have to be in
> the know to understand why his mentioning ELP would be interesting to
> us and especially her, but you are not in the know. Not an insult or
> anything, you just don't know the whole story... yet...
>
> There is a guy named Mark Brown who has been posting to alt.music.pink-
> floyd for a long, long time. If this article was written by him, I
> totally understand why he picked that name and it was a real inside
> joke. If it's not him, there are two very big instances of coincidence/
> synchronicity on our hands.

Thank you chinagreenelvis!!! Thank you! Atleast you know what I mean.
I don't make myself very clear sometimes. I take for granted that
people know where I'm coming from.
progea
2008-04-28 13:42:14 UTC
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On Apr 27, 7:16 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 27, 6:28 pm, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > What the hell was that all about?  Somebody knows more than I though.
>
> > > LOL Jesus, one of Mark Brown's questions was stated in sentence format
> > > after Waters's previous response. And Marlk Brown said there "I'm
> > > thinking of music like Emerson, Lake and Palmer". You didn't even
> > > bother reading it and I' wasted my time.
>
> > No, she read it, she just means "what was that all about" as in "why
> > did he pick that particular band name..." You kind of have to be in
> > the know to understand why his mentioning ELP would be interesting to
> > us and especially her, but you are not in the know. Not an insult or
> > anything, you just don't know the whole story... yet...
>
> > There is a guy named Mark Brown who has been posting to alt.music.pink-
> > floyd for a long, long time. If this article was written by him, I
> > totally understand why he picked that name and it was a real inside
> > joke. If it's not him, there are two very big instances of coincidence/
> > synchronicity on our hands.
>
> Thank you chinagreenelvis!!!  Thank you! Atleast you know what I mean.
> I don't make myself very clear sometimes.  I take for granted that
> people know where I'm coming from

A pasted long article with no link provided may look discouraging to
read. I'll keep my good habit of finding myself the link if it's not
given, insofar I can, and only post it, leaving the choice of reading
to the potential reader and still crediting the source and the format
I originally found it in (e.g., MySpace something). With the chance of
a reunited Pink Floyd being very remote by now and with none of us
getting any younger either, we'll keep the flame/hope as long as we
still have occasions to talk about Pink Floyd or related. 'cos I'm not
talking fart storytelling guy's farts or Kyla's cats here.
luvhockey
2008-04-28 14:31:29 UTC
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On Apr 28, 9:42 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 27, 7:16 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 27, 6:28 pm, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
>
> > > > > What the hell was that all about?  Somebody knows more than I though.
>
> > > > LOL Jesus, one of Mark Brown's questions was stated in sentence format
> > > > after Waters's previous response. And Marlk Brown said there "I'm
> > > > thinking of music like Emerson, Lake and Palmer". You didn't even
> > > > bother reading it and I' wasted my time.
>
> > > No, she read it, she just means "what was that all about" as in "why
> > > did he pick that particular band name..." You kind of have to be in
> > > the know to understand why his mentioning ELP would be interesting to
> > > us and especially her, but you are not in the know. Not an insult or
> > > anything, you just don't know the whole story... yet...
>
> > > There is a guy named Mark Brown who has been posting to alt.music.pink-
> > > floyd for a long, long time. If this article was written by him, I
> > > totally understand why he picked that name and it was a real inside
> > > joke. If it's not him, there are two very big instances of coincidence/
> > > synchronicity on our hands.
>
> > Thank you chinagreenelvis!!!  Thank you! Atleast you know what I mean.
> > I don't make myself very clear sometimes.  I take for granted that
> > people know where I'm coming from
>
> A pasted long article with no link provided may look discouraging to
> read. I'll keep my good habit of finding myself the link if it's not
> given, insofar I can, and only post it, leaving the choice of reading
> to the potential reader and still crediting the source and the format
> I originally found it in (e.g., MySpace something). With the chance of
> a reunited Pink Floyd being very remote by now and with none of us
> getting any younger either, we'll keep the flame/hope as long as we
> still have occasions to talk about Pink Floyd or related. 'cos I'm not
> talking fart storytelling guy's farts or Kyla's cats here.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Oh come on Progea, get over it please! I've been hoaxed so much in my
life that
I dont trust myself or others much of the time. I didn't mean to say
that you told fart stories! I just wasn't sure if I should believe in
what I was reading. I'm a gullible person as it is and I'm just tired
of being let down all the time. Sorry again, can we be friends now??
luvhockey
2008-04-28 14:46:26 UTC
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On Apr 28, 10:31 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 9:42 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 27, 7:16 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 27, 6:28 pm, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
>
> > > > > > What the hell was that all about?  Somebody knows more than I though.
>
> > > > > LOL Jesus, one of Mark Brown's questions was stated in sentence format
> > > > > after Waters's previous response. And Marlk Brown said there "I'm
> > > > > thinking of music like Emerson, Lake and Palmer". You didn't even
> > > > > bother reading it and I' wasted my time.
>
> > > > No, she read it, she just means "what was that all about" as in "why
> > > > did he pick that particular band name..." You kind of have to be in
> > > > the know to understand why his mentioning ELP would be interesting to
> > > > us and especially her, but you are not in the know. Not an insult or
> > > > anything, you just don't know the whole story... yet...
>
> > > > There is a guy named Mark Brown who has been posting to alt.music.pink-
> > > > floyd for a long, long time. If this article was written by him, I
> > > > totally understand why he picked that name and it was a real inside
> > > > joke. If it's not him, there are two very big instances of coincidence/
> > > > synchronicity on our hands.
>
> > > Thank you chinagreenelvis!!!  Thank you! Atleast you know what I mean.
> > > I don't make myself very clear sometimes.  I take for granted that
> > > people know where I'm coming from
>
> > A pasted long article with no link provided may look discouraging to
> > read. I'll keep my good habit of finding myself the link if it's not
> > given, insofar I can, and only post it, leaving the choice of reading
> > to the potential reader and still crediting the source and the format
> > I originally found it in (e.g., MySpace something). With the chance of
> > a reunited Pink Floyd being very remote by now and with none of us
> > getting any younger either, we'll keep the flame/hope as long as we
> > still have occasions to talk about Pink Floyd or related. 'cos I'm not
> > talking fart storytelling guy's farts or Kyla's cats here.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Oh come on Progea, get over it please!  I've been hoaxed so much in my
> life that
> I dont trust myself or others much of the time.  I didn't mean to say
> that you told fart stories!  I just wasn't sure if I should believe in
> what I was reading.  I'm a gullible person as it is and I'm just tired
> of being let down all the time.  Sorry again, can we be friends now??- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

When Roger used the word "fey" did he mean doomed to die or fairylike?
progea
2008-04-28 15:15:28 UTC
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On Apr 28, 10:31 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 9:42 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 27, 7:16 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 27, 6:28 pm, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
>
> > > > > > What the hell was that all about?  Somebody knows more than I though.
>
> > > > > LOL Jesus, one of Mark Brown's questions was stated in sentence format
> > > > > after Waters's previous response. And Marlk Brown said there "I'm
> > > > > thinking of music like Emerson, Lake and Palmer". You didn't even
> > > > > bother reading it and I' wasted my time.
>
> > > > No, she read it, she just means "what was that all about" as in "why
> > > > did he pick that particular band name..." You kind of have to be in
> > > > the know to understand why his mentioning ELP would be interesting to
> > > > us and especially her, but you are not in the know. Not an insult or
> > > > anything, you just don't know the whole story... yet...
>
> > > > There is a guy named Mark Brown who has been posting to alt.music.pink-
> > > > floyd for a long, long time. If this article was written by him, I
> > > > totally understand why he picked that name and it was a real inside
> > > > joke. If it's not him, there are two very big instances of coincidence/
> > > > synchronicity on our hands.
>
> > > Thank you chinagreenelvis!!!  Thank you! Atleast you know what I mean.
> > > I don't make myself very clear sometimes.  I take for granted that
> > > people know where I'm coming from
>
> > A pasted long article with no link provided may look discouraging to
> > read. I'll keep my good habit of finding myself the link if it's not
> > given, insofar I can, and only post it, leaving the choice of reading
> > to the potential reader and still crediting the source and the format
> > I originally found it in (e.g., MySpace something). With the chance of
> > a reunited Pink Floyd being very remote by now and with none of us
> > getting any younger either, we'll keep the flame/hope as long as we
> > still have occasions to talk about Pink Floyd or related. 'cos I'm not
> > talking fart storytelling guy's farts or Kyla's cats here.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Oh come on Progea, get over it please!  I've been hoaxed so much in my
> life that
> I dont trust myself or others much of the time.  I didn't mean to say
> that you told fart stories!  I just wasn't sure if I should believe in
> what I was reading.  I'm a gullible person as it is and I'm just tired
> of being let down all the time.  Sorry again, can we be friends now??- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

But I've never seen you as a foe. Sorry to hear of what you've been
through. I too am naive..
luvhockey
2008-04-28 16:44:03 UTC
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On Apr 28, 11:15 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 10:31 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 28, 9:42 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 27, 7:16 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 27, 6:28 pm, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
>
> > > > > > > What the hell was that all about?  Somebody knows more than I though.
>
> > > > > > LOL Jesus, one of Mark Brown's questions was stated in sentence format
> > > > > > after Waters's previous response. And Marlk Brown said there "I'm
> > > > > > thinking of music like Emerson, Lake and Palmer". You didn't even
> > > > > > bother reading it and I' wasted my time.
>
> > > > > No, she read it, she just means "what was that all about" as in "why
> > > > > did he pick that particular band name..." You kind of have to be in
> > > > > the know to understand why his mentioning ELP would be interesting to
> > > > > us and especially her, but you are not in the know. Not an insult or
> > > > > anything, you just don't know the whole story... yet...
>
> > > > > There is a guy named Mark Brown who has been posting to alt.music.pink-
> > > > > floyd for a long, long time. If this article was written by him, I
> > > > > totally understand why he picked that name and it was a real inside
> > > > > joke. If it's not him, there are two very big instances of coincidence/
> > > > > synchronicity on our hands.
>
> > > > Thank you chinagreenelvis!!!  Thank you! Atleast you know what I mean.
> > > > I don't make myself very clear sometimes.  I take for granted that
> > > > people know where I'm coming from
>
> > > A pasted long article with no link provided may look discouraging to
> > > read. I'll keep my good habit of finding myself the link if it's not
> > > given, insofar I can, and only post it, leaving the choice of reading
> > > to the potential reader and still crediting the source and the format
> > > I originally found it in (e.g., MySpace something). With the chance of
> > > a reunited Pink Floyd being very remote by now and with none of us
> > > getting any younger either, we'll keep the flame/hope as long as we
> > > still have occasions to talk about Pink Floyd or related. 'cos I'm not
> > > talking fart storytelling guy's farts or Kyla's cats here.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Oh come on Progea, get over it please!  I've been hoaxed so much in my
> > life that
> > I dont trust myself or others much of the time.  I didn't mean to say
> > that you told fart stories!  I just wasn't sure if I should believe in
> > what I was reading.  I'm a gullible person as it is and I'm just tired
> > of being let down all the time.  Sorry again, can we be friends now??- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> But I've never seen you as a foe. Sorry to hear of what you've been
> through. I too am naive..- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks, I've been let down so much in my life, getting cancer was no
real surprise. (Somebody out there please put the voodoo doll of me
away).
At Barnes & Noble I saw this book & kit with a voodoo doll and how to
get people to do what you want. It was a man on the back and a woman
on the front. That's scary.
progea
2008-04-29 10:46:09 UTC
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http://blog.myspace.com/tonylortiz


Tuesday, April 29, 2008

Roger Waters has some unkind words for Emerson Lake & palmer


Roger Waters was interviewed recently and had some unkind works for
Emerson Lake & Palmer. His comments are below.

Mark Brown: Some music from your classic era sounds timeless, like
Dark Side or John Fogerty's anti-war songs. But some music from that
era sounds dated and silly. You managed to avoid that with Dark Side
and The Wall. Why is that?

Waters: It's because they're truthful and they spring from a
passionate attachment to political and philosophical ideals that are
based in the experience of others. If you were to name something that
you now consider silly . . . not that I want to knock other artists,
but you'd probably find the subject matter is fey in some way.

Mark Brown: I'm thinking music like Emerson, Lake & Palmer.

Waters: Well, that wasn't about anything . . . it was a construct in
order to sell records. It didn't have its roots in somebody's
passionate belief in human life. It had its roots in wanting to be
successful in pop music in the 1970s.

The interview is at this link.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/apr/25/another-look-at-dark-side/

I showed these comments to Keith and asked if he had anything to say
about them that I could post on my blog, and he did.

Keithʼs comment is a casual statement that was not sent to Roger, but
to me" Keiths statement is not an official statement to Roger Water.

Keith Emerson:

Dear Tony,
So, like inflating pigs to fly over Battersea Power Station disrupting
Heathrow Airport, London wasn't a construct in order to sell records
or a publicity stunt to be successful in pop music? ELP's music
combined social comment with fun, artistry and variety which is more
than I can say about his morbid dronings. He and I are in the business
of entertainment and if He chooses to put himself in the category of
pop activist so be it. I learned the lesson early enough. Don't mix
politics with music by burning flags. Leave all that to Bono and
Sting. Either become a politician or a musician. Although he made a
lot of money with his mono tonal ramblings on the latter I think he
should stick to the former as long as he preaches his politics in some
remote area like a worm sanctuary in Siberia.
K. E.
PS I enjoyed being part of his tribute album


9:28 - 0 Comments - 8 Kudos - Add Comment
luvhockey
2008-04-29 13:25:01 UTC
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On Apr 29, 6:46 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://blog.myspace.com/tonylortiz
>
> Tuesday, April 29, 2008
>
>   Roger Waters has some unkind words for Emerson Lake & palmer
>
> Roger Waters was interviewed recently and had some unkind works for
> Emerson Lake & Palmer. His comments are below.
>
> Mark Brown: Some music from your classic era sounds timeless, like
> Dark Side or John Fogerty's anti-war songs. But some music from that
> era sounds dated and silly. You managed to avoid that with Dark Side
> and The Wall. Why is that?
>
> Waters: It's because they're truthful and they spring from a
> passionate attachment to political and philosophical ideals that are
> based in the experience of others. If you were to name something that
> you now consider silly . . . not that I want to knock other artists,
> but you'd probably find the subject matter is fey in some way.
>
> Mark Brown: I'm thinking music like Emerson, Lake & Palmer.
>
> Waters: Well, that wasn't about anything . . . it was a construct in
> order to sell records. It didn't have its roots in somebody's
> passionate belief in human life. It had its roots in wanting to be
> successful in pop music in the 1970s.
>
> The interview is at this link.http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/apr/25/another-look-at-dar...
>
> I showed these comments to Keith and asked if he had anything to say
> about them that I could post on my blog, and he did.
>
> Keithʼs comment is a casual statement that was not sent to Roger, but
> to me" Keiths statement is not an official statement to Roger Water.
>
> Keith Emerson:
>
> Dear Tony,
> So, like inflating pigs to fly over Battersea Power Station disrupting
> Heathrow Airport, London wasn't a construct in order to sell records
> or a publicity stunt to be successful in pop music? ELP's music
> combined social comment with fun, artistry and variety which is more
> than I can say about his morbid dronings. He and I are in the business
> of entertainment and if He chooses to put himself in the category of
> pop activist so be it. I learned the lesson early enough. Don't mix
> politics with music by burning flags. Leave all that to Bono and
> Sting. Either become a politician or a musician. Although he made a
> lot of money with his mono tonal ramblings on the latter I think he
> should stick to the former as long as he preaches his politics in some
> remote area like a worm sanctuary in Siberia.
> K. E.
> PS I enjoyed being part of his tribute album
>
> 9:28 - 0 Comments - 8 Kudos - Add Comment

"Haven't you heard its a battle of words"
e***@chinagreenelvis.com
2008-04-29 13:31:49 UTC
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> > Keith Emerson:
>
> > Dear Tony,
> > So, like inflating pigs to fly over Battersea Power Station disrupting
> > Heathrow Airport, London wasn't a construct in order to sell records
> > or a publicity stunt to be successful in pop music? ELP's music
> > combined social comment with fun, artistry and variety which is more
> > than I can say about his morbid dronings. He and I are in the business
> > of entertainment and if He chooses to put himself in the category of
> > pop activist so be it. I learned the lesson early enough. Don't mix
> > politics with music by burning flags. Leave all that to Bono and
> > Sting. Either become a politician or a musician. Although he made a
> > lot of money with his mono tonal ramblings on the latter I think he
> > should stick to the former as long as he preaches his politics in some
> > remote area like a worm sanctuary in Siberia.
> > K. E.
> > PS I enjoyed being part of his tribute album

This is getting more and more entertaining. Unfortunately, these are
two very different arguments. Waters was comparing Dark Side of the
Moon-era Pink Floyd with ELP. Emerson is comparing ELP with The Final
Cut and post-Pink Floyd Waters material.

> "Haven't you heard its a battle of words"

I knew you were going to say that... :(
luvhockey
2008-04-29 13:51:35 UTC
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On Apr 29, 9:31 am, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
> > > Keith Emerson:
>
> > > Dear Tony,
> > > So, like inflating pigs to fly over Battersea Power Station disrupting
> > > Heathrow Airport, London wasn't a construct in order to sell records
> > > or a publicity stunt to be successful in pop music? ELP's music
> > > combined social comment with fun, artistry and variety which is more
> > > than I can say about his morbid dronings. He and I are in the business
> > > of entertainment and if He chooses to put himself in the category of
> > > pop activist so be it. I learned the lesson early enough. Don't mix
> > > politics with music by burning flags. Leave all that to Bono and
> > > Sting. Either become a politician or a musician. Although he made a
> > > lot of money with his mono tonal ramblings on the latter I think he
> > > should stick to the former as long as he preaches his politics in some
> > > remote area like a worm sanctuary in Siberia.
> > > K. E.
> > > PS I enjoyed being part of his tribute album
>
> This is getting more and more entertaining. Unfortunately, these are
> two very different arguments. Waters was comparing Dark Side of the
> Moon-era Pink Floyd with ELP. Emerson is comparing ELP with The Final
> Cut and post-Pink Floyd Waters material.
>
> > "Haven't you heard its a battle of words"
>
> I knew you were going to say that... :(- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

:)
progea
2008-04-29 14:03:51 UTC
Permalink
On Apr 29, 9:31 am, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
> > > Keith Emerson:
>
> > > Dear Tony,
> > > So, like inflating pigs to fly over Battersea Power Station disrupting
> > > Heathrow Airport, London wasn't a construct in order to sell records
> > > or a publicity stunt to be successful in pop music? ELP's music
> > > combined social comment with fun, artistry and variety which is more
> > > than I can say about his morbid dronings. He and I are in the business
> > > of entertainment and if He chooses to put himself in the category of
> > > pop activist so be it. I learned the lesson early enough. Don't mix
> > > politics with music by burning flags. Leave all that to Bono and
> > > Sting. Either become a politician or a musician. Although he made a
> > > lot of money with his mono tonal ramblings on the latter I think he
> > > should stick to the former as long as he preaches his politics in some
> > > remote area like a worm sanctuary in Siberia.
> > > K. E.
> > > PS I enjoyed being part of his tribute album
>
> This is getting more and more entertaining. Unfortunately, these are
> two very different arguments. Waters was comparing Dark Side of the
> Moon-era Pink Floyd with ELP. Emerson is comparing ELP with The Final
> Cut and post-Pink Floyd Waters material.
>
> > "Haven't you heard its a battle of words"
>
> I knew you were going to say that... :(- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

:) Mark Brown started it all. The burning flag incident Keith Emerson
mentions must be the one with The Nice doing "America" live.
luvhockey
2008-04-29 14:33:10 UTC
Permalink
On Apr 29, 10:03 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 29, 9:31 am, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > Keith Emerson:
>
> > > > Dear Tony,
> > > > So, like inflating pigs to fly over Battersea Power Station disrupting
> > > > Heathrow Airport, London wasn't a construct in order to sell records
> > > > or a publicity stunt to be successful in pop music? ELP's music
> > > > combined social comment with fun, artistry and variety which is more
> > > > than I can say about his morbid dronings. He and I are in the business
> > > > of entertainment and if He chooses to put himself in the category of
> > > > pop activist so be it. I learned the lesson early enough. Don't mix
> > > > politics with music by burning flags. Leave all that to Bono and
> > > > Sting. Either become a politician or a musician. Although he made a
> > > > lot of money with his mono tonal ramblings on the latter I think he
> > > > should stick to the former as long as he preaches his politics in some
> > > > remote area like a worm sanctuary in Siberia.
> > > > K. E.
> > > > PS I enjoyed being part of his tribute album
>
> > This is getting more and more entertaining. Unfortunately, these are
> > two very different arguments. Waters was comparing Dark Side of the
> > Moon-era Pink Floyd with ELP. Emerson is comparing ELP with The Final
> > Cut and post-Pink Floyd Waters material.
>
> > > "Haven't you heard its a battle of words"
>
> > I knew you were going to say that... :(- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> :) Mark Brown started it all. The burning flag incident Keith Emerson
> mentions must be the one with The Nice doing "America" live.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

For me, Roger started it all really...with his timeless lyrics...like
Gilmour said "The DSOTM lyrics mean even more today. He said that
about SOYCD also, I believe. Rogers old songs are like rock passages
in a rock & roll bible that have come to pass years later.. He was
foretelling the future and didnt know it.
He's brilliant and there needs to be a new rock opera with all of PF
which puts everything together from the past up to the present and
seeing into the future.
If there is anyone to do it, its Roger w/ PF. And of course it should
be called Enigma.
luvhockey
2008-04-29 14:37:04 UTC
Permalink
On Apr 29, 10:33 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 29, 10:03 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 29, 9:31 am, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
>
> > > > > Keith Emerson:
>
> > > > > Dear Tony,
> > > > > So, like inflating pigs to fly over Battersea Power Station disrupting
> > > > > Heathrow Airport, London wasn't a construct in order to sell records
> > > > > or a publicity stunt to be successful in pop music? ELP's music
> > > > > combined social comment with fun, artistry and variety which is more
> > > > > than I can say about his morbid dronings. He and I are in the business
> > > > > of entertainment and if He chooses to put himself in the category of
> > > > > pop activist so be it. I learned the lesson early enough. Don't mix
> > > > > politics with music by burning flags. Leave all that to Bono and
> > > > > Sting. Either become a politician or a musician. Although he made a
> > > > > lot of money with his mono tonal ramblings on the latter I think he
> > > > > should stick to the former as long as he preaches his politics in some
> > > > > remote area like a worm sanctuary in Siberia.
> > > > > K. E.
> > > > > PS I enjoyed being part of his tribute album
>
> > > This is getting more and more entertaining. Unfortunately, these are
> > > two very different arguments. Waters was comparing Dark Side of the
> > > Moon-era Pink Floyd with ELP. Emerson is comparing ELP with The Final
> > > Cut and post-Pink Floyd Waters material.
>
> > > > "Haven't you heard its a battle of words"
>
> > > I knew you were going to say that... :(- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > :) Mark Brown started it all. The burning flag incident Keith Emerson
> > mentions must be the one with The Nice doing "America" live.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> For me,  Roger started it all really...with his timeless lyrics...like
> Gilmour said  "The DSOTM lyrics mean even more today. He said that
> about SOYCD also, I believe. Rogers old songs are like rock passages
> in a rock & roll bible that have come to pass years later.. He was
> foretelling the future and didnt know it.
> He's brilliant and there needs to be a new rock opera with all of PF
> which puts everything together from the past up to the present and
> seeing into the future.
> If there is anyone to do it, its Roger w/ PF. And of course it should
> be called Enigma.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Are you reading this David?
luvhockey
2008-04-29 14:42:31 UTC
Permalink
On Apr 29, 10:33 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 29, 10:03 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 29, 9:31 am, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
>
> > > > > Keith Emerson:
>
> > > > > Dear Tony,
> > > > > So, like inflating pigs to fly over Battersea Power Station disrupting
> > > > > Heathrow Airport, London wasn't a construct in order to sell records
> > > > > or a publicity stunt to be successful in pop music? ELP's music
> > > > > combined social comment with fun, artistry and variety which is more
> > > > > than I can say about his morbid dronings. He and I are in the business
> > > > > of entertainment and if He chooses to put himself in the category of
> > > > > pop activist so be it. I learned the lesson early enough. Don't mix
> > > > > politics with music by burning flags. Leave all that to Bono and
> > > > > Sting. Either become a politician or a musician. Although he made a
> > > > > lot of money with his mono tonal ramblings on the latter I think he
> > > > > should stick to the former as long as he preaches his politics in some
> > > > > remote area like a worm sanctuary in Siberia.
> > > > > K. E.
> > > > > PS I enjoyed being part of his tribute album
>
> > > This is getting more and more entertaining. Unfortunately, these are
> > > two very different arguments. Waters was comparing Dark Side of the
> > > Moon-era Pink Floyd with ELP. Emerson is comparing ELP with The Final
> > > Cut and post-Pink Floyd Waters material.
>
> > > > "Haven't you heard its a battle of words"
>
> > > I knew you were going to say that... :(- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > :) Mark Brown started it all. The burning flag incident Keith Emerson
> > mentions must be the one with The Nice doing "America" live.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> For me,  Roger started it all really...with his timeless lyrics...like
> Gilmour said  "The DSOTM lyrics mean even more today. He said that
> about SOYCD also, I believe. Rogers old songs are like rock passages
> in a rock & roll bible that have come to pass years later.. He was
> foretelling the future and didnt know it.
> He's brilliant and there needs to be a new rock opera with all of PF
> which puts everything together from the past up to the present and
> seeing into the future.
> If there is anyone to do it, its Roger w/ PF. And of course it should
> be called Enigma.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I think Robert Plant and the Pete Townshend should also be involved
in this project.
progea
2008-04-29 16:45:06 UTC
Permalink
On Apr 29, 10:33 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 29, 10:03 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 29, 9:31 am, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
>
> > > > > Keith Emerson:
>
> > > > > Dear Tony,
> > > > > So, like inflating pigs to fly over Battersea Power Station disrupting
> > > > > Heathrow Airport, London wasn't a construct in order to sell records
> > > > > or a publicity stunt to be successful in pop music? ELP's music
> > > > > combined social comment with fun, artistry and variety which is more
> > > > > than I can say about his morbid dronings. He and I are in the business
> > > > > of entertainment and if He chooses to put himself in the category of
> > > > > pop activist so be it. I learned the lesson early enough. Don't mix
> > > > > politics with music by burning flags. Leave all that to Bono and
> > > > > Sting. Either become a politician or a musician. Although he made a
> > > > > lot of money with his mono tonal ramblings on the latter I think he
> > > > > should stick to the former as long as he preaches his politics in some
> > > > > remote area like a worm sanctuary in Siberia.
> > > > > K. E.
> > > > > PS I enjoyed being part of his tribute album
>
> > > This is getting more and more entertaining. Unfortunately, these are
> > > two very different arguments. Waters was comparing Dark Side of the
> > > Moon-era Pink Floyd with ELP. Emerson is comparing ELP with The Final
> > > Cut and post-Pink Floyd Waters material.
>
> > > > "Haven't you heard its a battle of words"
>
> > > I knew you were going to say that... :(- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > :) Mark Brown started it all. The burning flag incident Keith Emerson
> > mentions must be the one with The Nice doing "America" live.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> For me,  Roger started it all really...with his timeless lyrics...

:) Mark Brown started "the battle of words" by provoking Roger Waters
to say what Waters thought of ELP music.
luvhockey
2008-04-29 17:03:01 UTC
Permalink
On Apr 29, 12:45 pm, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 29, 10:33 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 29, 10:03 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 29, 9:31 am, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
>
> > > > > > Keith Emerson:
>
> > > > > > Dear Tony,
> > > > > > So, like inflating pigs to fly over Battersea Power Station disrupting
> > > > > > Heathrow Airport, London wasn't a construct in order to sell records
> > > > > > or a publicity stunt to be successful in pop music? ELP's music
> > > > > > combined social comment with fun, artistry and variety which is more
> > > > > > than I can say about his morbid dronings. He and I are in the business
> > > > > > of entertainment and if He chooses to put himself in the category of
> > > > > > pop activist so be it. I learned the lesson early enough. Don't mix
> > > > > > politics with music by burning flags. Leave all that to Bono and
> > > > > > Sting. Either become a politician or a musician. Although he made a
> > > > > > lot of money with his mono tonal ramblings on the latter I think he
> > > > > > should stick to the former as long as he preaches his politics in some
> > > > > > remote area like a worm sanctuary in Siberia.
> > > > > > K. E.
> > > > > > PS I enjoyed being part of his tribute album
>
> > > > This is getting more and more entertaining. Unfortunately, these are
> > > > two very different arguments. Waters was comparing Dark Side of the
> > > > Moon-era Pink Floyd with ELP. Emerson is comparing ELP with The Final
> > > > Cut and post-Pink Floyd Waters material.
>
> > > > > "Haven't you heard its a battle of words"
>
> > > > I knew you were going to say that... :(- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > :) Mark Brown started it all. The burning flag incident Keith Emerson
> > > mentions must be the one with The Nice doing "America" live.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > For me,  Roger started it all really...with his timeless lyrics...
>
> :)  Mark Brown started "the battle of words" by provoking Roger Waters
> to say what Waters thought of ELP music.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


"There was a ragged band that followed in our footsteps, running
before time took our dreams away"
"Alexanders ragtime band dixieland dixieland, come and see the show"
Gilmour's poking fun also but in his lyrics, no need for an interview
when the battle of words exists in the songs themselves.
luvhockey
2008-04-29 17:14:18 UTC
Permalink
On Apr 29, 12:45 pm, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 29, 10:33 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 29, 10:03 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 29, 9:31 am, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
>
> > > > > > Keith Emerson:
>
> > > > > > Dear Tony,
> > > > > > So, like inflating pigs to fly over Battersea Power Station disrupting
> > > > > > Heathrow Airport, London wasn't a construct in order to sell records
> > > > > > or a publicity stunt to be successful in pop music? ELP's music
> > > > > > combined social comment with fun, artistry and variety which is more
> > > > > > than I can say about his morbid dronings. He and I are in the business
> > > > > > of entertainment and if He chooses to put himself in the category of
> > > > > > pop activist so be it. I learned the lesson early enough. Don't mix
> > > > > > politics with music by burning flags. Leave all that to Bono and
> > > > > > Sting. Either become a politician or a musician. Although he made a
> > > > > > lot of money with his mono tonal ramblings on the latter I think he
> > > > > > should stick to the former as long as he preaches his politics in some
> > > > > > remote area like a worm sanctuary in Siberia.
> > > > > > K. E.
> > > > > > PS I enjoyed being part of his tribute album
>
> > > > This is getting more and more entertaining. Unfortunately, these are
> > > > two very different arguments. Waters was comparing Dark Side of the
> > > > Moon-era Pink Floyd with ELP. Emerson is comparing ELP with The Final
> > > > Cut and post-Pink Floyd Waters material.
>
> > > > > "Haven't you heard its a battle of words"
>
> > > > I knew you were going to say that... :(- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > :) Mark Brown started it all. The burning flag incident Keith Emerson
> > > mentions must be the one with The Nice doing "America" live.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > For me,  Roger started it all really...with his timeless lyrics...
>
> :)  Mark Brown started "the battle of words" by provoking Roger Waters
> to say what Waters thought of ELP music.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I wonder whose side Fenwick is on, hehehe!
luvhockey
2008-04-29 17:18:25 UTC
Permalink
On Apr 29, 1:14 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 29, 12:45 pm, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 29, 10:33 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 29, 10:03 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 29, 9:31 am, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Keith Emerson:
>
> > > > > > > Dear Tony,
> > > > > > > So, like inflating pigs to fly over Battersea Power Station disrupting
> > > > > > > Heathrow Airport, London wasn't a construct in order to sell records
> > > > > > > or a publicity stunt to be successful in pop music? ELP's music
> > > > > > > combined social comment with fun, artistry and variety which is more
> > > > > > > than I can say about his morbid dronings. He and I are in the business
> > > > > > > of entertainment and if He chooses to put himself in the category of
> > > > > > > pop activist so be it. I learned the lesson early enough. Don't mix
> > > > > > > politics with music by burning flags. Leave all that to Bono and
> > > > > > > Sting. Either become a politician or a musician. Although he made a
> > > > > > > lot of money with his mono tonal ramblings on the latter I think he
> > > > > > > should stick to the former as long as he preaches his politics in some
> > > > > > > remote area like a worm sanctuary in Siberia.
> > > > > > > K. E.
> > > > > > > PS I enjoyed being part of his tribute album
>
> > > > > This is getting more and more entertaining. Unfortunately, these are
> > > > > two very different arguments. Waters was comparing Dark Side of the
> > > > > Moon-era Pink Floyd with ELP. Emerson is comparing ELP with The Final
> > > > > Cut and post-Pink Floyd Waters material.
>
> > > > > > "Haven't you heard its a battle of words"
>
> > > > > I knew you were going to say that... :(- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > :) Mark Brown started it all. The burning flag incident Keith Emerson
> > > > mentions must be the one with The Nice doing "America" live.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > For me,  Roger started it all really...with his timeless lyrics...
>
> > :)  Mark Brown started "the battle of words" by provoking Roger Waters
> > to say what Waters thought of ELP music.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I wonder whose side Fenwick is on, hehehe!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Roger's manager hung out with ELP in the 70's and I've got a letter
from him to prove it! Kewl. Thanks for the sofa Mark!

(opening my door to my enemies "you wanna wipe the slate clean yet?")
luvhockey
2008-04-29 17:32:12 UTC
Permalink
On Apr 29, 1:14 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 29, 12:45 pm, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 29, 10:33 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 29, 10:03 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 29, 9:31 am, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Keith Emerson:
>
> > > > > > > Dear Tony,
> > > > > > > So, like inflating pigs to fly over Battersea Power Station disrupting
> > > > > > > Heathrow Airport, London wasn't a construct in order to sell records
> > > > > > > or a publicity stunt to be successful in pop music? ELP's music
> > > > > > > combined social comment with fun, artistry and variety which is more
> > > > > > > than I can say about his morbid dronings. He and I are in the business
> > > > > > > of entertainment and if He chooses to put himself in the category of
> > > > > > > pop activist so be it. I learned the lesson early enough. Don't mix
> > > > > > > politics with music by burning flags. Leave all that to Bono and
> > > > > > > Sting. Either become a politician or a musician. Although he made a
> > > > > > > lot of money with his mono tonal ramblings on the latter I think he
> > > > > > > should stick to the former as long as he preaches his politics in some
> > > > > > > remote area like a worm sanctuary in Siberia.
> > > > > > > K. E.
> > > > > > > PS I enjoyed being part of his tribute album
>
> > > > > This is getting more and more entertaining. Unfortunately, these are
> > > > > two very different arguments. Waters was comparing Dark Side of the
> > > > > Moon-era Pink Floyd with ELP. Emerson is comparing ELP with The Final
> > > > > Cut and post-Pink Floyd Waters material.
>
> > > > > > "Haven't you heard its a battle of words"
>
> > > > > I knew you were going to say that... :(- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > :) Mark Brown started it all. The burning flag incident Keith Emerson
> > > > mentions must be the one with The Nice doing "America" live.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > For me,  Roger started it all really...with his timeless lyrics...
>
> > :)  Mark Brown started "the battle of words" by provoking Roger Waters
> > to say what Waters thought of ELP music.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I wonder whose side Fenwick is on, hehehe!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

actually Roger's manager toured with ELP in the 70's and I've got a
letter from his secretary
to prove it, I couldn't believe he was the same guy I met years ago.
Tis true.
luvhockey
2008-04-29 21:11:30 UTC
Permalink
On Apr 29, 6:46 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://blog.myspace.com/tonylortiz
>
> Tuesday, April 29, 2008
>
>   Roger Waters has some unkind words for Emerson Lake & palmer
>
> Roger Waters was interviewed recently and had some unkind works for
> Emerson Lake & Palmer. His comments are below.
>
> Mark Brown: Some music from your classic era sounds timeless, like
> Dark Side or John Fogerty's anti-war songs. But some music from that
> era sounds dated and silly. You managed to avoid that with Dark Side
> and The Wall. Why is that?
>
> Waters: It's because they're truthful and they spring from a
> passionate attachment to political and philosophical ideals that are
> based in the experience of others. If you were to name something that
> you now consider silly . . . not that I want to knock other artists,
> but you'd probably find the subject matter is fey in some way.
>
> Mark Brown: I'm thinking music like Emerson, Lake & Palmer.
>
> Waters: Well, that wasn't about anything . . . it was a construct in
> order to sell records. It didn't have its roots in somebody's
> passionate belief in human life. It had its roots in wanting to be
> successful in pop music in the 1970s.
>
> The interview is at this link.http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/apr/25/another-look-at-dar...
>
> I showed these comments to Keith and asked if he had anything to say
> about them that I could post on my blog, and he did.
>
> Keithʼs comment is a casual statement that was not sent to Roger, but
> to me" Keiths statement is not an official statement to Roger Water.
>
> Keith Emerson:
>
> Dear Tony,
> So, like inflating pigs to fly over Battersea Power Station disrupting
> Heathrow Airport, London wasn't a construct in order to sell records
> or a publicity stunt to be successful in pop music? ELP's music
> combined social comment with fun, artistry and variety which is more
> than I can say about his morbid dronings. He and I are in the business
> of entertainment and if He chooses to put himself in the category of
> pop activist so be it. I learned the lesson early enough. Don't mix
> politics with music by burning flags. Leave all that to Bono and
> Sting. Either become a politician or a musician. Although he made a
> lot of money with his mono tonal ramblings on the latter I think he
> should stick to the former as long as he preaches his politics in some
> remote area like a worm sanctuary in Siberia.
> K. E.
> PS I enjoyed being part of his tribute album
>
> 9:28 - 0 Comments - 8 Kudos - Add Comment

Now the Pig is missing, OK Keith, what did you do with it?
progea
2008-04-30 03:44:03 UTC
Permalink
On Apr 29, 5:11 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 29, 6:46 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >http://blog.myspace.com/tonylortiz
>
> > Tuesday, April 29, 2008
>
> >   Roger Waters has some unkind words for Emerson Lake & palmer
>
> > Roger Waters was interviewed recently and had some unkind works for
> > Emerson Lake & Palmer. His comments are below.
>
> > Mark Brown: Some music from your classic era sounds timeless, like
> > Dark Side or John Fogerty's anti-war songs. But some music from that
> > era sounds dated and silly. You managed to avoid that with Dark Side
> > and The Wall. Why is that?
>
> > Waters: It's because they're truthful and they spring from a
> > passionate attachment to political and philosophical ideals that are
> > based in the experience of others. If you were to name something that
> > you now consider silly . . . not that I want to knock other artists,
> > but you'd probably find the subject matter is fey in some way.
>
> > Mark Brown: I'm thinking music like Emerson, Lake & Palmer.
>
> > Waters: Well, that wasn't about anything . . . it was a construct in
> > order to sell records. It didn't have its roots in somebody's
> > passionate belief in human life. It had its roots in wanting to be
> > successful in pop music in the 1970s.
>
> > The interview is at this link.http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/apr/25/another-look-at-dar...
>
> > I showed these comments to Keith and asked if he had anything to say
> > about them that I could post on my blog, and he did.
>
> > Keithʼs comment is a casual statement that was not sent to Roger, but
> > to me" Keiths statement is not an official statement to Roger Water.
>
> > Keith Emerson:
>
> > Dear Tony,
> > So, like inflating pigs to fly over Battersea Power Station disrupting
> > Heathrow Airport, London wasn't a construct in order to sell records
> > or a publicity stunt to be successful in pop music? ELP's music
> > combined social comment with fun, artistry and variety which is more
> > than I can say about his morbid dronings. He and I are in the business
> > of entertainment and if He chooses to put himself in the category of
> > pop activist so be it. I learned the lesson early enough. Don't mix
> > politics with music by burning flags. Leave all that to Bono and
> > Sting. Either become a politician or a musician. Although he made a
> > lot of money with his mono tonal ramblings on the latter I think he
> > should stick to the former as long as he preaches his politics in some
> > remote area like a worm sanctuary in Siberia.
> > K. E.
> > PS I enjoyed being part of his tribute album
>
> > 9:28 - 0 Comments - 8 Kudos - Add Comment
>
> Now the Pig is missing, OK Keith, what did you do with it?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The Curse of Baba Yaga ;) lost and found, though
progea
2008-05-01 10:48:12 UTC
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http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/rocky_mountain_music/2008/04/roger_waters_keith_emerson_sma.html
unknown legend
2008-05-01 12:15:24 UTC
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On Apr 26, 1:56 pm, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
> The interview:http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/apr/25/another-look-at-dar...
>
> Mark Brown:http://www.rockymountainnews.com/staff/mark-brown/
>
> Is this the AMP-F Mark Brown?

No (as if you were around when that Mark Brown posted here), this Mark
Brown is a local rock critic who has worked for the Rocky Mountain
News for years.
luvhockey
2008-05-01 14:00:02 UTC
Permalink
The battle continues:

http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/rocky_mountain_music/2008/04/roger_waters_keith_emerson_sma.html
progea
2008-05-01 14:36:53 UTC
Permalink
On May 1, 10:00 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The battle continues:
>
> http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/rocky_mountain_music/2008/04/roger...

As could be already seen just two posts above yours...
luvhockey
2008-05-01 14:39:43 UTC
Permalink
On May 1, 10:36 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 1, 10:00 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > The battle continues:
>
> >http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/rocky_mountain_music/2008/04/roger...
>
> As could be already seen just two posts above yours...

Sorry Progea, I'll delete this and the other, please delete your post
of mine also
Keith
2008-05-02 00:47:38 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:56:45 -0700 (PDT), ***@chinagreenelvis.com
wrote:

>The interview:
>http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/apr/25/another-look-at-dark-side/
>
>Mark Brown:
>http://www.rockymountainnews.com/staff/mark-brown/
>
>Is this the AMP-F Mark Brown?

Dunno but the questions don"t seem to come from your average dumbass
journo, the ELP and "crappy musician" ones especially, they're much
too politically correct for that.
progea
2008-05-02 14:19:19 UTC
Permalink
On May 1, 8:47 pm, Keith <***@nospam.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:56:45 -0700 (PDT), ***@chinagreenelvis.com
> wrote:
>
> >The interview:
> >http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/apr/25/another-look-at-dar...
>
> >Mark Brown:
> >http://www.rockymountainnews.com/staff/mark-brown/
>
> >Is this the AMP-F Mark Brown?
>
> Dunno but the questions don"t seem to come from your average dumbass
> journo,

He provoked Waters with "I'm thinking of ELP music".
luvhockey
2008-05-02 14:36:53 UTC
Permalink
On May 2, 10:19 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 1, 8:47 pm, Keith <***@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:56:45 -0700 (PDT), ***@chinagreenelvis.com
> > wrote:
>
> > >The interview:
> > >http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/apr/25/another-look-at-dar...
>
> > >Mark Brown:
> > >http://www.rockymountainnews.com/staff/mark-brown/
>
> > >Is this the AMP-F Mark Brown?
>
> > Dunno but the questions don"t seem to come from your average dumbass
> > journo,
>
> He provoked Waters with "I'm thinking of ELP music".

The question is Why did he pick ELP? He may know more than you think!
progea
2008-05-02 15:05:50 UTC
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On May 2, 10:36 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 2, 10:19 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 1, 8:47 pm, Keith <***@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:56:45 -0700 (PDT), ***@chinagreenelvis.com
> > > wrote:
>
> > > >The interview:
> > > >http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/apr/25/another-look-at-dar...
>
> > > >Mark Brown:
> > > >http://www.rockymountainnews.com/staff/mark-brown/
>
> > > >Is this the AMP-F Mark Brown?
>
> > > Dunno but the questions don"t seem to come from your average dumbass
> > > journo,
>
> > He provoked Waters with "I'm thinking of ELP music".
>
> The question is Why did he pick ELP?  He may know more than you think!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Sure. Because he knew what he wanted.
luvhockey
2008-05-02 17:00:47 UTC
Permalink
On May 2, 11:05 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 2, 10:36 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 2, 10:19 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 1, 8:47 pm, Keith <***@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:56:45 -0700 (PDT), ***@chinagreenelvis.com
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > >The interview:
> > > > >http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/apr/25/another-look-at-dar...
>
> > > > >Mark Brown:
> > > > >http://www.rockymountainnews.com/staff/mark-brown/
>
> > > > >Is this the AMP-F Mark Brown?
>
> > > > Dunno but the questions don"t seem to come from your average dumbass
> > > > journo,
>
> > > He provoked Waters with "I'm thinking of ELP music".
>
> > The question is Why did he pick ELP?  He may know more than you think!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Sure. Because he knew what he wanted.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

What are you getting at?
progea
2008-05-02 17:06:50 UTC
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On May 2, 1:00 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 2, 11:05 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 2, 10:36 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 2, 10:19 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 1, 8:47 pm, Keith <***@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:56:45 -0700 (PDT), ***@chinagreenelvis.com
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > >The interview:
> > > > > >http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/apr/25/another-look-at-dar...
>
> > > > > >Mark Brown:
> > > > > >http://www.rockymountainnews.com/staff/mark-brown/
>
> > > > > >Is this the AMP-F Mark Brown?
>
> > > > > Dunno but the questions don"t seem to come from your average dumbass
> > > > > journo,
>
> > > > He provoked Waters with "I'm thinking of ELP music".
>
> > > The question is Why did he pick ELP?  He may know more than you think!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Sure. Because he knew what he wanted.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> What are you getting at?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

LOL "Haven't you heard? It's a battle of words".
luvhockey
2008-05-02 20:50:10 UTC
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WOW
I just got a comment on myspace from Dave Kilminster!!
luvhockey
2008-05-02 20:59:47 UTC
Permalink
On May 2, 4:50 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> WOW
> I just got a  comment on myspace from Dave Kilminster!!

I told him to tell Rog and Mark I said HI.
progea
2008-05-03 01:44:04 UTC
Permalink
On May 2, 4:59 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 2, 4:50 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > WOW
> > I just got a  comment on myspace from Dave Kilminster!!
>
> I told him to tell Rog and Mark I said HI.

You crazy or what? You mean Mark Brown? He doesn't deserve a "Hi"
after all he did. He deserves something else.
luvhockey
2008-05-03 14:02:13 UTC
Permalink
On May 2, 9:44 pm, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 2, 4:59 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 2, 4:50 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > WOW
> > > I just got a  comment on myspace from Dave Kilminster!!
>
> > I told him to tell Rog and Mark I said HI.
>
> You crazy or what? You mean Mark Brown? He doesn't deserve a "Hi"
> after all he did. He deserves something else.


No, sorrry I forgot to put his last initial of F for Fenwick, Rog's
manager.
I never met Mark Brown, why would I say Hi to him?
luvhockey
2008-05-03 14:14:56 UTC
Permalink
On May 3, 10:02 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 2, 9:44 pm, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 2, 4:59 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 2, 4:50 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > WOW
> > > > I just got a  comment on myspace from Dave Kilminster!!
>
> > > I told him to tell Rog and Mark I said HI.
>
> > You crazy or what? You mean Mark Brown? He doesn't deserve a "Hi"
> > after all he did. He deserves something else.
>
> No,  sorrry I forgot to put his last initial of F for Fenwick, Rog's
> manager.
> I never met Mark Brown, why would I say Hi to him?


when answering the question regarding ELP, Rog said "That wasn't
about anything"
I thought he was talking about the Enigma. I mean why call ELP
'that' instead of 'they'? Didn't Gilmour or Nick say those same words
when asked about the Enigma? Seems I've heard them before.
progea
2008-05-03 23:53:24 UTC
Permalink
On May 3, 10:02 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 2, 9:44 pm, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 2, 4:59 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 2, 4:50 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > WOW
> > > > I just got a  comment on myspace from Dave Kilminster!!
>
> > > I told him to tell Rog and Mark I said HI.
>
> > You crazy or what? You mean Mark Brown? He doesn't deserve a "Hi"
> > after all he did. He deserves something else.
>
> No,  sorrry I forgot to put his last initial of F for Fenwick, Rog's
> manager.
> I never met Mark Brown, why would I say Hi to him?

Sure, don't say Hi ro him, just tell him GFY or Fuck off, Raja or
whatever.
progea
2008-05-03 01:43:04 UTC
Permalink
On May 2, 4:50 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> WOW
> I just got a  comment on myspace from Dave Kilminster!!

You're good. I don't know you on MySpace but does he know of all this
bullshit? Does he or Rog know what's going on?

Is Rog aware he was provoked by a mediocre journalist and all this
lead to a battle of words? Huh?
luvhockey
2008-05-03 14:22:32 UTC
Permalink
On May 2, 9:43 pm, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 2, 4:50 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > WOW
> > I just got a  comment on myspace from Dave Kilminster!!
>
> You're good. I don't know you on MySpace but does he know of all this
> bullshit? Does he or Rog know what's going on?
>
> Is Rog aware he was provoked by a mediocre journalist and all this
> lead to a battle of words? Huh?

Is Rog aware?..." duh he was being interviewed....I'm sure Rog is
aware, he's too smart to let a mediocre journalist get over on him
with words. .you know most of the time the artist chooses the
questions to be asked! It was planned......
and it was well done! I mean Keith fell for it and came out with the
boxing gloves on!! even ELP fans are calling this thing the Enigma!!
hehe...Nice way to bring the Enigma out in the open!!
progea
2008-05-03 23:55:01 UTC
Permalink
On May 3, 10:22 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 2, 9:43 pm, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 2, 4:50 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > WOW
> > > I just got a  comment on myspace from Dave Kilminster!!
>
> > You're good. I don't know you on MySpace but does he know of all this
> > bullshit? Does he or Rog know what's going on?
>
> > Is Rog aware he was provoked by a mediocre journalist and all this
> > lead to a battle of words? Huh?
>
> Is Rog aware?..." duh he was being interviewed....I'm sure Rog is
> aware, he's too smart to let a mediocre journalist get over on him
> with words. .you know most of the time the artist chooses the
> questions to be asked! It was planned......
> and it was well done!  I mean Keith fell for it and came out with the
> boxing gloves on!!  even ELP fans are calling this thing the Enigma!!

Er, The ENDLESS Enigma
luvhockey
2008-05-03 14:39:55 UTC
Permalink
On May 2, 9:43 pm, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 2, 4:50 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > WOW
> > I just got a  comment on myspace from Dave Kilminster!!
>
> You're good. I don't know you on MySpace but does he know of all this
> bullshit? Does he or Rog know what's going on?
>
I'm not sure if Dave K knows, not sure Roger knows, but I would think
that Nick told Roger about the Enigma definetely!! But uncertain if
Rog told Dave K. Hmmm.
got that comment fast though!! I doubt he replies to many people
right before a concert!! guess I'm special.....hehe!
I think Keith jumped from the frying pan into the fire!! Why else
would the newpaper be crumpled?? to start a fire... sorry, just havin
fun with what I know......

It is a funny game isn't it? How many years ago did I say it was a
battle of words out there? Now some players are battling in
interviews, how cool is that? Even some ELP fans are calling it the
Enigma without even knowing about the real one!!
You see Rog can say anything he wants and can't be connected with the
Enigma.
Now Gilmour could never do what Rog did, the word Enigma is too much a
part of PF now. Thats why Publius changed his name to Genesis to be
able to give good clues. The word Publius is a part of PF history
being in the AMLOR mini disc booklet. Even if I wasn't involved, its
only common sense.
Atleast I tell you when I'm not sure about something. I know the
difference between truth and delusion. I'm not a nutter..
"She may know more than you think" Genesis........
e***@chinagreenelvis.com
2008-05-03 20:57:01 UTC
Permalink
>when answering the question regarding ELP, Rog said "That wasn't
>about anything."

He meant "that" as in "the band and the music they produced, the whole
thing." Neither Nick Mason nor David Gilmour have been quoted as
saying "that wasn't about anything" in regards to the Publius Enigma.
Produce solid evidence instead of connecting dots that aren't there.

Where are you getting the idea that ELP fans are referring to this
interview fiasco as the "enigma?"

I thought you agreed to stop talking about this provided we all read
your book when you write it. Then again, I also read a post of your
from 1996/97 in which you also said that if we didn't get a very
explicit (and undisputedly genuine) message from Gilmour himself
regarding you that you were going to personally apologize to everyone
here and forget the whole thing. :\
luvhockey
2008-05-03 21:41:47 UTC
Permalink
On May 3, 4:57 pm, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
> >when answering the question regarding ELP,  Rog said  "That wasn't
> >about anything."
>
> He meant "that" as in "the band and the music they produced, the whole
> thing." Neither Nick Mason nor David Gilmour have been quoted as
> saying "that wasn't about anything" in regards to the Publius Enigma.
> Produce solid evidence instead of connecting dots that aren't there.

I wrote that it SEEMS I heard that phrase before



> Where are you getting the idea that ELP fans are referring to this
> interview fiasco as the "enigma?"

Because one fan of theirs called the battle of words, an Enigma. You
know ELP has a song called the Endless Enigma dont' you?? Most don't
know about the PF Enigma


> I thought you agreed to stop talking about this provided we all read
> your book when you write it. Then again, I also read a post of your
> from 1996/97 in which you also said that if we didn't get a very
> explicit (and undisputedly genuine) message from Gilmour himself
> regarding you that you were going to personally apologize to everyone
> here and forget the whole thing. :\

I got that message from Genesis. My question to him was "Who does PF
communicate a message to through the lyrics and artwork" and he wrote
"YOU"
And I always said that Publius was Gilmour, so if Publius is also
Genesis then
Genesis is also Gilmour. DG replace the G from Genesis and add a D
and then you have an anagram of my name in plural. Voila!!
progea
2008-05-03 23:58:32 UTC
Permalink
On May 3, 4:57 pm, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
> >when answering the question regarding ELP,  Rog said  "That wasn't
> >about anything."
>
> He meant "that" as in "the band and the music they produced, the whole
> thing." Neither Nick Mason nor David Gilmour have been quoted as
> saying "that wasn't about anything" in regards to the Publius Enigma.
> Produce solid evidence instead of connecting dots that aren't there.
>
> Where are you getting the idea that ELP fans are referring to this
> interview fiasco as the "enigma?"

LOL amusing this Enigma obsession crept in with any excuse in any
post, isn't it? By the way, ELP fans' Enigma is called The ENDLESS
Enigma
progea
2008-05-03 23:56:51 UTC
Permalink
On May 3, 10:39 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 2, 9:43 pm, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:> On May 2, 4:50 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > WOW
> > > I just got a  comment on myspace from Dave Kilminster!!
>
> > You're good. I don't know you on MySpace but does he know of all this
> > bullshit? Does he or Rog know what's going on?
>
> I'm not sure if Dave K knows, not sure Roger knows, but I would think
> that Nick told Roger about the Enigma definetely!!  But uncertain if
> Rog told Dave K. Hmmm.
>  got that comment fast though!!  I doubt he replies to many people
> right before a concert!!  guess I'm special.....hehe!
> I think Keith jumped from the frying pan into the fire!!  Why else
> would the newpaper be crumpled?? to start a fire... sorry, just havin
> fun with what I know......
>
> It is a funny game isn't it? How many years ago did I say it was a
> battle of words out there? Now some players are battling in
> interviews, how cool is that? Even some ELP fans are calling it the
> Enigma

Er, The ENDLESS Enigma
Kyla =^. .^=
2008-05-03 20:59:09 UTC
Permalink
"Keith"
> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:56:45 -0700 (PDT), ***@chinagreenelvis.com
> wrote:
>
>>The interview:
>>http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/apr/25/another-look-at-dark-side/
>>
>>Mark Brown:
>>http://www.rockymountainnews.com/staff/mark-brown/
>>
>>Is this the AMP-F Mark Brown?
>
> Dunno but the questions don"t seem to come from your average dumbass
> journo, the ELP and "crappy musician" ones especially, they're much
> too politically correct for that.

Handy, is that YOU????
Kyla%b
Yer ol Den Mom of 11 years now
Vicky is Sticky
2008-04-26 22:20:26 UTC
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"luvhockey" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9d77ddbd-765b-46e6-a1a1-***@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 26, 1:01 pm, "Vicky is Sticky" <***@malaga.com> wrote:
> "luvhockey" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8a6ad8c5-b5b7-4849-829f-***@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 26, 9:47 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Whose Myspace?? Post some links to the space and to the interview
>
> Why not use you're brain and type a little of the interview into
> google......
>
> lazy fucker!

yeah I'm lazy,I'm not reading the whole thing, just to find out at the
end that it was only that fart storytelling guy all along.

Like I said....use your brain.... it took me less than 10 seconds to
'copy/paste the 1st line' into google and find the sites you were looking
for. Hey...I did it all with 3 clicks of my mouse too.....no reading
required! So....even if you are illiterate you could probably still do it
too!
luvhockey
2008-04-26 22:30:57 UTC
Permalink
On Apr 26, 6:20 pm, "Vicky is Sticky" <***@malaga.com> wrote:
> "luvhockey" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9d77ddbd-765b-46e6-a1a1-***@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 26, 1:01 pm, "Vicky is Sticky" <***@malaga.com> wrote:
>
> > "luvhockey" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:8a6ad8c5-b5b7-4849-829f-***@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> > On Apr 26, 9:47 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Whose Myspace?? Post some links to the space and to the interview
>
> > Why not use you're brain and type a little of the interview into
> > google......
>
> > lazy fucker!
>
> yeah I'm lazy,I'm not reading the whole thing, just to find out at the
> end that it was only that fart storytelling guy all along.
>
> Like I said....use your brain.... it took me less than 10 seconds to
> 'copy/paste the 1st line' into google and find the sites you were looking
> for.  Hey...I did it all with 3 clicks of my mouse too.....no reading
> required!  So....even if you are illiterate you could probably still do it
> too!

jeez are you still bothering me about that shit, get over it buddy.
Kyla =^. .^=
2008-04-27 04:02:37 UTC
Permalink
"luvhockey" <...
On Apr 26, 6:20 pm, "Vicky is Sticky" :
> "luvhockey"in message
...
> On Apr 26, 1:01 pm, "Vicky is Sticky" :
>
> > "luvhockey" > wrote in message
...
> > On Apr 26, 9:47 am, progea wrote:
>
> > > Whose Myspace?? Post some links to the space and to the interview
>
> > Why not use you're brain and type a little of the interview into
> > google......
>
> > lazy fucker!
>
> yeah I'm lazy,I'm not reading the whole thing, just to find out at the
> end that it was only that fart storytelling guy all along.
>
> Like I said....use your brain.... it took me less than 10 seconds to
> 'copy/paste the 1st line' into google and find the sites you were looking
> for. Hey...I did it all with 3 clicks of my mouse too.....no reading
> required! So....even if you are illiterate you could probably still do it
> too!

jeez are you still bothering me about that shit, get over it buddy.

Just slap Stuck Vicky upside the haid and plonk him/her/it
It wants me to kill myself LOL
(((HUG)))
Kyla%b
progea
2008-04-27 20:25:51 UTC
Permalink
On Apr 26, 1:23 pm, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 26, 1:01 pm, "Vicky is Sticky" <***@malaga.com> wrote:
>
> > "luvhockey" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:8a6ad8c5-b5b7-4849-829f-***@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> > On Apr 26, 9:47 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Whose Myspace?? Post some links to the space and to the interview
>
> > Why not use you're brain and type a little of the interview into
> > google......
>
> > lazy fucker!
>
> yeah I'm lazy,I'm not reading the whole thing, just to find out at the
> end that it was only that fart storytelling guy all along.

Yeah, right, like I've been posting links to the fart storytelling guy
here.
progea
2008-04-27 20:23:40 UTC
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On Apr 26, 10:58 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 26, 9:47 am, progea <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > MySpace bulletin. As can be seen, no link was included. A search on
> > Rocky Mountain News (Denver?) is needed.
>
> > From:    Dave Kilminster
>
> > Date:  Apr 26, 2008 8:23 AM
>
> > Subject:  New Roger Waters Interview Discusses DSOTM Tour!
>
> > Body:  With the beginning of the 2008 Dark Side of the Moon Tour
> > approaching this weekend, Roger Waters is interviewed by a Colorado
> > reporter about the tour, his music and perspective... Check it out
> > here!
>
> > Another look at 'Dark Side'
> > By Mark Brown, Rocky Mountain News
> > Friday, April 25, 2008
>
> > Roger Waters says timeless songs are truthful songs.
>
> > It's a happy accident that Pink Floyd co-founder Roger Waters is
> > playing the Pepsi Center. Waters had no touring plan for the U.S. but
> > agreed to a May benefit in Argentina. Playing the Coachella Festival
> > in California seemed like a good warm-up, and that meant time for a
> > few shows in Colorado and Texas. Then the Argentina benefit was
> > canceled. So Waters finds himself on a mini-tour he never intended.
> > The upside, he told Rocky pop music writer Mark Brown with a laugh
> > during a rare interview, is that he'll get to sing the anti-George W.
> > Bush song Leaving Beirut in his home state.
>
> > You were booed early on for Leaving Beirut, but a lot of America has
> > come around to your way of thinking.
>
> > Your thoughts?
>
> > I remember the first gig we did on the first bit of the tour (in 2006)
> > was in Camden, N.J. There were lots of military bases around there. I
> > was getting the finger, and there was a certain measure of unrest. In
> > the intervening years that unrest has become a quieter and quieter
> > voice. People have embraced the idea that just because you're an Arab
> > or a Muslim doesn't mean you're one of the "evildoers." We're all
> > people, and we need to understand one another better.
>
> > Does revisiting Dark Side of the Moon in its entirety (in concert)
> > bring any new meaning?
>
> > It's how strange that the politics of the thing seem to be up to date
> > now. What impresses me most about it is the attachment of an
> > increasingly young audience to the ideas in it and songs like Us and
> > Them, which develop the ideas that you and I have been speaking about
> > here. None of this stuff has gone away, ever.
>
> > Some music from your classic era sounds timeless, like Dark Side or
> > John Fogerty's anti-war songs. But some music from that era sounds
> > dated and silly. You managed to avoid that with Dark Side and The
> > Wall.
>
> > Why is that?
>
> > It's because they're truthful and they spring from a passionate
> > attachment to political and philosophical ideals that are based in the
> > experience of others. If you were to name something that you now
> > consider silly . . . not that I want to knock other artists, but you'd
> > probably find the subject matter is fey in some way.
>
> > I'm thinking music like Emerson, Lake & Palmer.
>
> > Well, that wasn't about anything . . . it was a construct in order to
> > sell records. It didn't have its roots in somebody's passionate belief
> > in human life. It had its roots in wanting to be successful in pop
> > music in the 1970s.
>
> > Is it difficult to stage Dark Side and find musicians who can handle
> > the parts?
>
> > No. One has to always take one's hat off to Dave (Gilmour) and Rick
> > (Wright), who created the original parts. But I treat it as a
> > classical piece. There are lots of musicians around who are capable of
> > learning the parts as if it was a piece of classical music. The guitar
> > player who plays most of the Gilmour stuff, Dave Kilminster, does it
> > beautifully. He brings his own something to it, but basically they're
> > the notes in Dave's solos. I make no bones about staying very close to
> > the original parts because I think they're beautiful.
>
> > I read you're recording an album called Heartland.
>
> > Any truth to that?
>
> > That might well be. It might be called Heartland, or it might be
> > called something else. I have a ton of songs I've written. I keep
> > meaning to get around to going in the studio.
>
> > Is it more enjoyable to record with today's technology?
>
> > I was reminding myself that back in those days when we were doing a
> > mix of something, all of us would sit down at the mixing board. We'd
> > start the 24-track tape. Everybody would have three or four faders
> > that were their responsibility and pan pots and equalizers and effects
> > and things. You'd run it from the top to the bottom, and it would be a
> > performance. That would be mix one. Then you'd go, "I didn't get this
> > move quite right," and you'd do it again. You'd listen to those mixes
> > and make a value judgment about which one moved you more. Now, of
> > course, it's all digital and it remembers everything you do and you
> > can change minutiae without having to do the whole thing again. It has
> > removed the idea of performance from the mixing of the song.
>
> > Some musicians get paralyzed by too many choices.
>
> > I always think it's a bit of a handicap, in terms of writing, if
> > you're a virtuoso guitar player or keyboard player or anything else,
> > really. There's a temptation to sort of noodle. However brilliant it
> > may be, it's not writing. I've always thought the fact that I can't
> > play instruments really well has been something of an advantage.
>
> > It means I have to think about things - what is the effect I'm trying
> > to create here?
>
> > Because you're such a crappy musician.
>
> > Exactly! (laughs) It's funny you should say that. Just because you're
> > not a virtuoso guitar player doesn't mean that you're not a good
> > musician. It's a sort of fallacy that has been picked upon by my
> > enemies from time to time. Music is actually about communicating
> > feelings to human beings. If you do that within the genre, it doesn't
> > matter if you can't play Chopin preludes on the piano. You're still a
> > musician.
>
> > Pink Floyd's one-off reunion at Live 8 has been analyzed to death.
>
> > But are you yourself a fan of reunions?
>
> > I don't think you can generalize about it. It's hard for bands; often
> > half of them are dead. I'm not really keen on the reunion when there's
> > only one bloke left standing. However, if everybody's alive and
> > enthusiastic about doing it, I think they're great. The Live 8 thing
> > was quite extraordinary. Even at our advanced years, we all still
> > seemed to be able to play a bit and sing. I thought those songs we did
> > sounded great. It was very moving for me personally to hear those four
> > musical voices joined together again onstage. And equally very moving
> > to experience the enormous waves of love that were coming off the
> > field at us. It was just fantastic. I loved it.
>
> > Will you consider releasing Floyd music from the vaults, like the 1973
> > BBC broadcast?
>
> > It's all out there on bootlegs. I'm not that interested in it.
>
> Whose Myspace??

Like I said, Dave Kilminster's MySpace. You know who Dave Kilminster
is, right?

Post some links to the space

Ever tried to post a link to a MySpace bulletin? It just gives you
your "View Bulletins" page. Plus, those with no MySpace accounts will
not be able to see it.

and to the interview-

Nevermind, I followed Vicky's example/suggestion and I found the link
myself. This is what I usually do when I get articles without links.
Not sure why I didn't do it this time. Guess I was being in a hurry
for some reason. Anyway, below is the link. At the beginning of the
article, you have a Contact link for Mark Brown - it gives you an
email frame form. At the end of the article, you have his explicited
email address plus a phone number to call him. Hope this helps.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/apr/25/another-look-at-dark-side/
Kyla =^. .^=
2008-04-27 22:52:56 UTC
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"progea"

Nevermind, I followed Vicky's example/suggestion and I found the link
myself.

Vicky's a dolt and hates ME, wishes I was dead, etc, so he/she/it is in my
KF

This is what I usually do when I get articles without links.
Not sure why I didn't do it this time. Guess I was being in a hurry
for some reason. Anyway, below is the link. At the beginning of the
article, you have a Contact link for Mark Brown - it gives you an
email frame form. At the end of the article, you have his explicited
email address plus a phone number to call him. Hope this helps.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/apr/25/another-look-at-dark-side/

Thanks
(((HUG)))
Kyla%b
--who Mark Brown usta hate
e***@chinagreenelvis.com
2008-05-01 14:40:44 UTC
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On May 1, 9:00 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The battle continues:
>
> http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/rocky_mountain_music/2008/04/roger...

This is all very strong evidence that either D is not quite as
rationally misguided as some of us would like to believe, or God has
an incredible sense of irony and humor.

I go with option B. ;)
luvhockey
2008-05-01 14:47:05 UTC
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On May 1, 10:40 am, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
> On May 1, 9:00 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > The battle continues:
>
> >http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/rocky_mountain_music/2008/04/roger...
>
> This is all very strong evidence that either D is not quite as
> rationally misguided as some of us would like to believe, or God has
> an incredible sense of irony and humor.
>
> I go with option B. ;)

After 14 years that's all I get? That perhaps I'm not a nutter after
all.
Gee thanks!
luvhockey
2008-05-01 14:50:41 UTC
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On May 1, 10:40 am, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
> On May 1, 9:00 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > The battle continues:
>
> >http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/rocky_mountain_music/2008/04/roger...
>
> This is all very strong evidence that either D is not quite as
> rationally misguided as some of us would like to believe, or God has
> an incredible sense of irony and humor.
>
> I go with option B. ;)


Well Gilmour doesn't believe in God..............
luvhockey
2008-05-01 15:05:50 UTC
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On May 1, 10:40 am, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
> On May 1, 9:00 am, luvhockey <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > The battle continues:
>
> >http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/rocky_mountain_music/2008/04/roger...
>
> This is all very strong evidence that either D is not quite as
> rationally misguided as some of us would like to believe, or God has
> an incredible sense of irony and humor.
>
> I go with option B. ;)

Haven't you left the building yet Elvis?
e***@chinagreenelvis.com
2008-05-01 16:26:53 UTC
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> Haven't you left the building yet Elvis?

Uh huh-huh. Thankyavurymuch.
luvhockey
2008-05-01 17:51:23 UTC
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On May 1, 12:26 pm, ***@chinagreenelvis.com wrote:
> > Haven't you left the building yet Elvis?
>
> Uh huh-huh. Thankyavurymuch.

Hey If Roger gives an ENIGMA clue during his concert, then would you
believe me? Better not say yes, because it could happen!! haha!
Hey You !! Give us clue!
Kyla =^. .^=
2008-05-01 21:21:28 UTC
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"luvhockey" <
On May 1, 12:26 pm, e:
> > Haven't you left the building yet Elvis?
>
> Uh huh-huh. Thankyavurymuch.

Hey If Roger gives an ENIGMA clue during his concert, then would you
believe me? Better not say yes, because it could happen!! haha!
Hey You !! Give us clue!

And eric, please don't e-mail me again...I can't help you with that BD
issue.
Go to Brain Damage UK and look up the article yerself!
Kyla
e***@chinagreenelvis.com
2008-05-01 22:32:58 UTC
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On May 1, 2:21 pm, "Kyla =^. .^=" <***@comcats.net> wrote:

>>Haven't you left the building yet Elvis?
>
> I wish....
> And eric, please don't e-mail me again...I can't help you with that BD
> issue.
> Go to Brain Damage UK and look up the article yerself!
> Kyla

I would have just asked here but I was under the impression that you
had me in your killfile. It's not as if I'm spamming you with e-mails;
I only sent the one and I sent it because I thought it was the only
way I could reach you. Also, I did go to braindamage.co.uk but either
they don't have the Q and A from that issue on file or I just can't
seem to find it yet.

What's more, Kyla, this is the umpteenth time you've made some snide
remark to me or concerning me. I'm not here to drum up drama. I'm not
some fucking troll. I've never said or done anything to insult or
bother you, so I'm not exactly what you have your panties in a bunch
about. You keep calling me "idiot" and wishing that I wasn't around.
Either I did something to earn this scorn from you, or you're just a
grumpy old bitch.

Maybe you don't like the things I have to say around here. That would
make perfect sense, seeing as how I post about Pink Floyd, and you
hang around tossing about blurry photographs of unrecognizable cats
that look like they were taken by a psychotic person with no hands.
Vicky is Sticky
2008-05-01 23:43:28 UTC
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<***@chinagreenelvis.com> wrote in message
news:dbfaca1f-0f39-4c20-935d-***@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On May 1, 2:21 pm, "Kyla =^. .^=" <***@comcats.net> wrote:
>
> that look like they were taken by a psychotic person with no hands.

re-arrange this common phrase.....

the nail hit you've head on the


she's a fruitcake, mate.....she killfiles or disses 'anyone' that says
something she doesn't agree with or makes any sort of constructive
criticism.....

Sad, lonely, old manic depressive that constantly needs comfort.....
Kyla =^. .^=
2008-05-01 21:19:34 UTC
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"luvhockey" <
On May 1, 10:40 am, e
> On May 1, 9:00 am, luvhockey >
> > The battle continues:
>
> >http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/rocky_mountain_music/2008/04/roger...
>
> This is all very strong evidence that either D is not quite as
> rationally misguided as some of us would like to believe, or God has
> an incredible sense of irony and humor.
>
> I go with option B. ;)

Haven't you left the building yet Elvis?

I wish....
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